As I wrote on Wednesday, I’ll be back in town next weekend
to test things myself. In the meantime, I received a series of emails from Dan
Perlman of Casa Saltshaker as to
his experience, beginning with his observation that “This is just so f'ing Argentine...” for its apparent disorderliness. I have
edited his following comments slightly, primarily for punctuation.
According to Dan, “I
tweeted your post about the SUBE cards and got hit back with multiple
Argentines who follow me with ‘no, no, foreigners can get them, just go to the
website and find the place nearest to you or go to any Correo Argentino [Post Office] to
get one with your passport.’"
“Fine, went to the [SUBE] site and it gives no information whatsoever
about who can apply or what you need to apply, but it does say, ‘go fill out
the form at any Centro de Atencion’ and it gives a list of about a dozen in
every neighborhood. I go to the one a few blocks from me and they've got
signs plastered all over saying ‘we don't have SUBE cards here.’ So I go in and
ask about it woman says, ‘the government never distributed the cards or the
forms to any of the Centros de Atencion, so none of us have them. You have to
go to any Correo Argentino.’"
“I go to the one
closest to my house. I ask. ‘Nope, we don't have them, only the big zone
branches have them.’ I go to the closest one to my house. Signs all over, ‘we
have no system to process SUBE card requests for the moment.’ I ask. "Oh,
the processing system has been down for days, it might be back up next week
some time.’"
“Meanwhile, the
government's been blogging and announcing about how they're so overwhelmed with
the quantity of processing requests that they've extended the deadline for
obtaining the cards.’"
“Yeah. This is
working.”
Another interesting
point that Dan brings up is the fact that authorities may be able to track
cardholders’ usage even though, as I mentioned in Tuesday’s post, it is
customary for multiple riders to use the same ticket on the Subte in particular,
since no ticket is required to exit the system. The card, he says, “while tied
to your name, probably doesn't show your name on the sensors - they don't have
a screen that could do that, just a light to indicate it was processed and a
small number readout of the balance. They'd have to replace every sensor in
every bus, subway and train in order to have the ID thing make sense.”
“There is, however, an
interesting Big Brother component to it all - if you go to the SUBE site, you
can click on the link ‘Mis Viajes’ [My Trips], enter your card number and it
will show your entire history (no idea back how far) of travels, time-stamped.
I imagine the government has full access to that which would be something they
could use to track someone down potentially.”
I’m not quite so convinced of that as, even if the card
shows where you boarded a train or bus, it can’t show in which direction you
were headed or where you got off. To repeat, there is no ticket necessary to
exit any Subte train or city bus, and I can’t imagine any practical way to set
one up – especially given how inept the system’s implementation has been so
far.
In a follow-up message, Dan elaborates that “I'm going to go back on Monday or Tuesday to
see if ‘the system’ is back up, so perhaps wait and see with that. Also, one
person told me that starting sometime next week there are going to be street
processing kiosks setup around the city - presumably, since they need a
"system", either the intent is a wi-fi/cell connection to [the] process,
or maybe it's just to fill out the paperwork and then wait for the card to
arrive in the mail. I did, BTW, try filling out the form online and have heard
nothing back, so who knows?”
Late Update
My wife, who's an Argentine citizen, has had better luck with her SUBE application. According to an email she just received, "We wish to notfiy you that your request has arrived at a final stage of validation and is presently being processed by Correo Argentino. We will inform you by another email on the progress of your package. Remember that the proceeding remains active and until its completion, it is not permitted to make another request either by Internet or at any other service point."
Late Update
My wife, who's an Argentine citizen, has had better luck with her SUBE application. According to an email she just received, "We wish to notfiy you that your request has arrived at a final stage of validation and is presently being processed by Correo Argentino. We will inform you by another email on the progress of your package. Remember that the proceeding remains active and until its completion, it is not permitted to make another request either by Internet or at any other service point."
We Have a Winner! And, Perhaps, Another
Laurene Dong of Kitchener, Ontario, correctly identified
Canada’s Barrick Gold
as the company that proposed moving glaciers along the Argentine border in the
so-called Pascua Lama project. She adds that “I'm disappointed to learn that the company that tried to remove the
glaciers in northern Chile is Barrick Gold, which is Canadian, as am I.” She will be receiving a free
copy of Moon Handbooks Patagonia in the mail, and is planning to visit early
next year.
Meanwhile, I received another correct answer from a reader
named “Randy,” who did not otherwise identify himself, in the comments section
of the entry. Randy, if you don’t answer me by Monday with an address to which
I can mail the book, I will have to withdraw the prize and hold it for a future
contest.
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